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By: Andy Gibson

Andy Gibson — Mon, 25 May 2009 16:06:02 +0000

Thanks everyone for your comments. I’m currently trying to process all the feedback.

One other comment to add to the ‘pile’, from Drew Shannon at White Label UK:

“Agree with the comments about the need to edit. Just one thought, perhaps separate them into separate stories about the stages of evolution for a online network.

1. Concept / planning
2. Site build / features
3. Launch
4. General running & management
5. Upgrading and development

..or something like that.”

Thanks Drew! Watch this space for further developments, and the book should be out in June now.

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Here Come 45 Social Propositions « Disappearing into use — Thu, 14 May 2009 21:42:06 +0000

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By: Monkeymagic » Links for April 25th

Monkeymagic » Links for April 25th — Sun, 26 Apr 2009 00:30:42 +0000

[...] 45 Social by Social Propositions « SociabilityGood stuff, esp. “Design to support conversations, relationships, stories – not to organise documents. If everything?s neat and tidy, it?s because no-one?s there.” Might need condensing for schoolTags: social web2.0 strategy community social_computing school April 26th 2009 | | Asides on community, school, social, social computing, strategy Web2.0 [...]

By: dpdnolan

dpdnolan — Tue, 14 Apr 2009 22:44:32 +0000

I can think of some doors to nail #11 and #18 to! You’ve drawn out some valuable insights here on a rich and various topic, thanks. They’re simple but not platitudinous, so editing them down is risky. I’d look at clustering them as Triston suggests.

Having said that, there are a few I don’t get (I know there’s a book that’ll fill out the ideas, but it’s this list that will get replicated):

13. Keep it messy

OK human conversations don’t have straight edges and right angles.

But “keeping it messy” is too strong I reckon. Part of the job of housing/enabling/curating/aggregating multiple threads and strands is to organise and prune. Think wikigardening.

It also makes it sound like the success of a project should be measured by the amount of noise it makes. Actually, I think many projects are evaluated this way :/

19. Be a pirate. Don’t make things yourself.

“Don’t make things yourself”?? You can’t be serious! Making things of value is what it’s all about. I know “Don’t reinvent the wheel” is a cliche but surely that captures what you mean better?

28. Enthusiasts are more important than experts. Attitude beats ability when tools are cheap and easy.

I’ll have to read the book for this one, because there’s already more than enough attitude on the Internet for me. To stand out, you need attitude *and* ability. Enthusiasts need experts and vice versa.

31. All energy is good energy

I’d love to believe that, but there are trolls and griefers out there. It’s a big bad Internet sometimes.

Looking forward to the book.

By: Socialreporter | Sources for social technology propositions - now mix your own

Fri, 10 Apr 2009 15:12:19 +0000

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